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Jenshae Chiroptera 1671	Posted - 2015.06.12 16:58:42 - [1] - Quote I thought Fozzie SOV would need a cruisers with cloaks and some scouts to keep griefing defenders. Now they won't be able to probe tackle anyone so they don't even need cloaks. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1671	Posted - 2015.06.12 19:53:48 - [2] - Quote This change also makes multi-language fleets more difficult. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1673	Posted - 2015.06.13 02:23:16 - [3] - Quote Sakul Aubaris wrote: ... Here is your new "challenge". ... Note how even while saying it he stresses how ridiculous it is. I think they are trying to force more engagements. Instead, I believe it will make people more risk adverse. No longer +1 scouts and risk getting caught in a system but +2 and +3 scouts front and back. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1674	Posted - 2015.06.13 02:30:36 - [4] - Quote Lyra Gerie wrote: Manfred Sideous wrote: Blah. This post shows you have NO idea how wormhole space works ... ... bookmark sharing which is already a terrible system. ... To chime in on this, ratting in high end worm holes usually requires a good little team, with mixed ship types (so different warp speeds) going to a book marked and scanned site. Let us assume though that they are going to use just Tech 3 cruisers and logistics, so one of the logistics is too slow and pop goes the first one to land ... and pop goes a T3 cruiser. Risk is now far out weighing reward. Sakul Aubaris wrote: ... Here is your new "challenge". ... Note how even while saying it he stresses how ridiculous it is. I think they are trying to force more engagements. Instead, I believe it will make people more risk adverse. No longer +1 scouts and risk getting caught in a system but +2 and +3 scouts front and back. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1675	Posted - 2015.06.13 13:42:31 - [5] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: I think they are trying to force more engagements. Instead, I believe it will make people more risk adverse. No longer +1 scouts and risk getting caught in a system but +2 and +3 scouts front and back. Good thing those things you entosis can be warped to directly Who cares about that? Stage out of Low Sec or NPC Null space like NC. are doing and control moons from there. Magic wands are a joke. FT Diomedes wrote: Zappity wrote: Resa Moon wrote: Proposed changes to fleet warp are idiotic. Eve has enough tedium as is, don't present more. Ridiculous if you feel you have to FORCE players into engaging with the game. This is an interesting point. Changes which make people want to be engaged would surely be better. I wonder if CCP understands the appeal of blob warfare (I certainly don't but acknowledge that there must be something I'm missing). The appeal is in winning. .... The appeal is also helping to beat crazy odds, you find a Titan and some supers dropped on you and make them run or you help hold up paper thing ships because they are flown right and you fit your logi ships right. There is so much that goes on in a large battle that anchoring and fleet warps help to control. Unnecessary complexity. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1675	Posted - 2015.06.13 13:54:21 - [6] - Quote baltec1 wrote: ... the ones who are kicking up a fuss are no name NPC alts and bad pilots who cant think for themselves, terrified at the thought of actually having to play EVE when they play EVE. Yes, disparage and put people down when an idea is complete stupid. Attack them to try remove their opposition. How can you play so long and not grasp some really simple things? There are different ways of playing this game. There are those who love to get in with fast ships, mess about with transversals and feathering, being solo heroes. While there are those that like to play a more strategic game, forming up a solid wall of heavy tanks and grinding down the enemies. Tournament style, twitch reflex gaming or Army planning and grinding. CCP are screwing up, they have been reducing the solo and small gang options and now they are taking away the blobs. Soon, we are all going to be forced into a mediocre mush inbetween and half the people will constantly hate it or quit. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1679	Posted - 2015.06.13 14:24:37 - [7] - Quote Airi Cho wrote: ... How does it kill NPSI? Newbies don't get left behind so much and as a result tend to live a bit longer. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1680	Posted - 2015.06.13 19:27:19 - [8] - Quote Tappits wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Airi Cho wrote: ... How does it kill NPSI? Newbies don't get left behind so much and as a result tend to live a bit longer. Teach them how to fly their ships then and ... Information overload. It is a thing. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1680	Posted - 2015.06.13 19:39:14 - [9] - Quote Current theory doing the rounds is that Fozzie is a mole for Riot. It would explain the latest crop of ideas. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1681	Posted - 2015.06.13 23:41:59 - [10] - Quote It looks like Null Sec is going to be too annoying to live in. I am torn between making plans to live in a worm hole (again), run missions in High Sec or quit. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1687	Posted - 2015.06.14 04:26:20 - [11] - Quote I wonder if we make it worse? CCP is renowned for taking critism badly, constructive or otherwise. If they come up with a horrible idea they will try push it through and bandaid fix it. If they can't bandaid fix it then they will latch onto the compromise that is closest to their plan, usually suggested by players to reduce the damage. It seems to be about not losing face. That they have to keep forcing that they are "right" or they might lose morale and confidence. I probably don't have my finger on it quite right but I think sometimes that we pressure them to be more stupid that usual. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1702	Posted - 2015.06.15 00:23:28 - [12] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Also want repair broadcasts to only be seen by the squad they are in so logi gets a nerf without having her nerf logistics ships. Hahahaha! The way power creep is going with more damage and alphas? Are you nuts? CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1703	Posted - 2015.06.15 09:58:22 - [13] - Quote Rowells wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: baltec1 wrote: Also want repair broadcasts to only be seen by the squad they are in so logi gets a nerf without having her nerf logistics ships. Hahahaha! The way power creep is going with more damage and alphas? Are you nuts? which is in no small part a result of...? Take a guess. Feeding the "I want crowd" Logi haven't changed in what? A decade? Now they are a problem? Tier 3s, T3s, etc while the T1s languish. Newbies keep having further and further to go and that is disheartening. Utility > power. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1706	Posted - 2015.06.16 21:14:57 - [14] - Quote Anger. Denial. Attempts to compromise. Acceptance. CCP thinks that everyone will get over it and move on to "the next thing to whine about" because all of it is just "people not liking change" CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1706	Posted - 2015.06.17 00:30:24 - [15] - Quote Arrendis wrote: Awkward Pi Duolus wrote: [quote=baltec1]All you did earlier on is show you have no idea how our fleets work. ... Edit to add: As for the specific claim about 'a 250 man fleet being a one-man show'... it's usually more like a four-man show. Maybe up to 9 if you want to include the WC's turning their boosts on and off. So, some of our top pilots just get lucky all the time? No. You have always had the option to follow the FC blindly or think for yourself within the context of the battle. That won't change. What will changes is more ships dying for a short time. Then people will become more risk adverse and put out scouts even further. If they aren't entirely sure they can beat the others they will turn tail and run. If they are sure, then the other side will run. This is a very short sighted mechanics change. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1717	Posted - 2015.06.17 23:36:32 - [16] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: How does the fleet warp change impact/synergize/undermine the whole entosis capture thing? I keep feeling there's a subtle connection somehow. :/ Really fast magic wand ship that you can no longer warp tackle onto? CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1737	Posted - 2015.06.23 19:55:03 - [17] - Quote Worthless complexity is not adding depth to the game. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1738	Posted - 2015.06.24 01:53:42 - [18] - Quote Dermeisen wrote: ... All I can say is it's going to be much more fun following fleets and picking off that guy who keeps getting caught on the gate :-( bless! Do not worry. There is quite a few disabled people who struggle along to play EVE, one arm, missing fingers, some playing with their mouths, probably even feet. This change should make it easier to kill them off and rub it in. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1742	Posted - 2015.06.25 01:04:06 - [19] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Brother Mercury wrote: What you're changing doesn't accomplish the stated goal your'e seeking, rather, it just creates tedium and circumstances that make it harder to get fleet engagements. So its working as intended. The point of this change is to force FCs ... The result of the change is that FCs are less likely fight at all and more likely to stay +2 systems or more away. I told you guys not to give CCP ideas for compromising. Now look; they are doing that broadcast bookmarks nonsense. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.

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